Tesla’s State of Full Self Driving Beta: Analyzed by Voyage CEO Oliver Cameron

Many discussions with more or less solid knowledge have been taking place since Tesla delivered the Full Self Driving Beta to a few selected customers, and have been eagerly posting videos ever since.

Now the founder and CEO of the Palo Alto-based self-driving technology start-up Voyage has posted his comments and insights on the published videos in a lengthy tweet. Cameron himself owns a Tesla Model 3 Performance and is working with his team to develop driverless robotics. Currently, the Voyage cabs are driving in two retirement villages in California and Florida and are expected to start completely driverless testing soon.

I took his comments and insights from the tweet, and reformatted and annotated them to make them easier to read and understand.


Tesla Full Self Driving (FSD) is a polarizing topic in the autonomous vehicle development field (AV) for a few reasons:

  • No use of pre-recorded High-Definition (HD) maps;
  • Perceiving the world with cameras (no LiDAR!);

Many think Tesla FSD is very different than most other self-driving technologies, but you can boil it down to these two reasons. What Tesla FSD is thus able to accomplish:

  • By generating a map on the fly, instead of pre-loading one recorded earlier, FSD can theoretically drive anywhere;
  • Realizing cost-savings because of fewer sensor modalities;

However, huge challenges remain. Remember, Waymo only just unlocked commercial driverless (i.e. no Safety Driver) utilizing both a pre-recorded map and extra sensor modalities (LiDAR, and higher-resolution cameras and radars). Let’s talk about those challenges.

Map challenges

FSD appears to not detect this median, and thus tries to drive down the wrong side of the road. Is this an “edge case” to iron out, or is it a monstrously large technical challenge to infer road rules in real-time?

FSD appears to not understand that this is a one-way street, preventing the lane change to the left. Humans intuitively recognize this based on the directions of parked cars (and signs). Machine intelligence is not quite at that level.

I’m not quite sure what’s going on here, honestly. The route for the vehicle keeps switching from going left to right, causing a need for driver intervention as the vehicle dives for the curb. This is why drivers need to be attentive at all times.

My bias: no company utilizes a pre-recorded HD map because they love adding cost. They do so because inferring road features in real-time is an exceptionally hard challenge. Perhaps you can do so to 99.9% accuracy in the short-term, but is that good enough?

Vision challenges

In this instance, FSD appears to be about to hit a sign, requiring intervention. There are no detected object in the visualization. Is this an “edge case” that more data will iron out? Or is it that depth-estimation with only cameras is fallible?

FSD decides to proceed at an unprotected junction even while a vehicle in cross-traffic is oncoming. This requires driver intervention. Perhaps the dark limited the range of the cameras and vision algorithms?

My bias: no company adds LiDARs to their robotaxis because they love the added cost. They do so because LiDAR complements the weaknesses of cameras (like seeing in darkness) and radars incredibly well.


Given FSD’s “beta” designation, these sorts of issues are to be expected. However, the clips above were taken from only 7 minutes of driving. Seeing these types of issue, with that frequency, gives me pause that this system is ready for fully self-driving anytime soon.

Now, we should also spend some time acknowledging that FSD is a damned fine accomplishment. It has been built with a relatively small team, and there are many impressive interactions. For instance, when you don’t have a pre-recorded HD map to localize to, or a LiDAR, it can be tough to accurately perceive the exact proximity of objects with the required granularity. As such, this slight deviation for a parked vehicle was very nice!

Traffic light detection, without encoding positions in a pre-recorded HD map, is inherently a data-driven problem. From the small amount of clips I’ve seen, FSD is able to accurately detect not just traffic light state, but the relevance of traffic lights to each lane. Nice!

Even though I pointed out a few failure modes of FSD’s attempt at inferring road rules in real-time, it is still super impressive to see their progress here.

After balancing the current weaknesses and strengths of the system (albeit with limited data), it is clear that FSD is an impressive technological accomplishment. However, is a fully self-driving Tesla imminent?

According to the little data I have, the answer is no. FSD has taken a complex problem and made it more complex, with no pre-recorded HD map and reduced sensor modalities. Their data advantage helps, but given this starting point, it is unclear if it is meaningful.

The fact we won’t have fully self-driving Tesla’s soon does not mean we cannot be excited about FSD. It’s healthy to see diversity in approach. It drives our industry to deliver a better product for customers. Congrats to Tesla on shipping. Now, add driver monitoring!

Caveat: All of the above is speculation based on only what I can see. I am sure I am wrong in many places, so please don’t take the above too seriously.

Source Videos


Here finally the complete thread on Twitter:

This article was also published in German.


  1. If this is how bad FSD is after billions of miles supposedly of collecting data, then clearly it wasn’t worth much. Many of the issues in videos with FSD are no where near the edge cases that you would expect to be causing problems. My fear is that FSD ends up killing someone and puts the whole AV progress back a number of years due to Tesla’s recklessness

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    1. The collected billions of miles of data were with the Autopilot, and that one was only available for highways (until very rrecently). The FSD is now for driving everywhere, including cities.
      Also the FSD is running on a different software architecture than the Autopilot. What wee see today is that the first versions of the FSD Beta (as discussed by Oliver in that article) have been sharply improved a few weeks later with the fifth update on the FSD that beta-testers received since the first Beta-Version was out. The learning here is supposed to work exponentially…

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  2. Amazingly irresponsible “reporting”. Everything Oliver Cameron says is self serving: if not then the value of his company is zero. At least he admits his opinions are biased. Fact is Lidar is useless in situations where actual road conditions differ from the high-definition scanned map: common situations like traffic accidents, pedestrians, saboteurs or road construction. While Lidar + high definition maps can solve known road conditions, the ability to work where you know (or think you know) the road conditions is not the problem – the problem autonomous driving must solve is the ability to navigate unknown road conditions – which necessitates the ability to navigate known road conditions. Any system that cannot deal with these outlying cases is worthless, even if it is incredibly competent 99.9% of the time. The value of driving 100,000 miles without an intervention is specious – the system must be able to drive millions of miles without an intervention – and right now the competition – including Voyage – does not have a roadmap to reach that goal.

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    1. Actually, they (and others) do have a solution. They call it “Teleoperation”, “TeleGuidance” or “telessist” etc. that allows them to take over the car from remote to handle new/challenging situations. And that is enough to bring them on the road quicckly and then feed their ML systems with that data.
      Read more here: https://thelastdriverlicenseholder.com/2020/07/08/voyage-telessist-how-to-remote-control-an-autonomous-car/
      And here: https://thelastdriverlicenseholder.com/2020/11/12/how-teleguidance-helps-zoox-vehicles-to-navigate-difficult-traffic-scenarios/

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